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« on: October 18, 2008, 06:04:22 PM »

Purpose: To illustrate how owners can utilize an unused instrument cluster spot as a secondary cruise control indicator.
Difficulty: If you've tinkered with electronics then it is not particularly difficult. Soldering skills are helpful.
Cost: $5 to $10
Warranty implication: Modifying the product of course voids the warranty for the component(s) you modify and any damage to the vehicle is obviously your responsibility. With that said, it is our estimation that the likelihood of causing any problems with the car is very low and damage to the cruise control is completely avoidable with reasonable care.

READ THROUGH THIS ENTIRE TUTORIAL AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEFORE PROCEEDING!  And don't proceed if you don't feel comfortable doing so.

Summary:  Tap into the red (cathode) and black (anode) wires of the cruise control switch cable and run a common LED bulb into a cavity found in your car's instrument cluster, illuminating an unused icon that is there.

Tools and Materials required:
  • Discrete LED (see specifications below)
  • 4 to 6 feet of 20 to 24 AWG wire
  • Splice taps (optional)
  • Soldering iron and solder
  • Wire cutters/stripper
LED Specs: Color as per your preference. Max 20mA. Forward Voltage between 1.85V and 2.5V.  3mm seems to be a good size (3mm and 5mm are the two most common sizes).  In the tutorial, we use one with a 125mcd (brightness) rating but you can buy > 1000mcd if you want brighter.  Whatever your local electronics store has is probably suitable.

Step 1: Remove the instrument cluster.
First you simply grasp the instrument cluster (ie. speedometer) with both hands and tug straight toward you. Only two basic clips hold it in place. Once removed, you then disconnect the single cable going into the back. This is done by rotating the gray swing arm 90 degrees to unlock then pull the connector straight out.



Step 2: Disassemble the instrument cluster.
First you take off the decorative frame at the front. Be careful, but there's really no trick to it - you just carefully pry it loose. It is held on with several somewhat delicate clips.



Next you pull down the lower hinged part of the main plastic body as shown. It is held in at both sides but a little finesse with your fingers and you should have it free with little trouble. Not much force required so if it isn't coming try pushing gently in different directions to get it to unlatch.



Now to remove the electronics from the plastic body.  In total there are 7 clip points holding the plastic body on.  All have to be loosened for it to come out so if it isn't coming, double check that one you loosened hasn't found its way back into place.  With all 7 loose, it should separate with little issue.  To get the three white ones in the back, use a small screwdriver or similar tool and gently push the white areas in (don't force!).  To get the two on the front simply pry the plastic away from the "guts" gently until it pops.  Note the first picture only shows 1 clip.  The other one (not shown) is on the other side of center.





Next you drill a hole of appropriate size for the LED you have chosen.  The hole goes either into the upper right cavity as shown, or the one next to it depending on your car.  Both of our early-release cars have an "ECO" icon in both positions but if yours has the preferred cruise control icon, it will probably be in the 2nd position from the top. If you pry the circuit board up a little you can easily see where the cavities are and shining a flashlight down the channels should reveal what the icons are.



Solder two wires to the LED and tape it appropriately (if you aren't into electronics at all, please enlist someone to help so you don't fry something by causing a short circuit).  Be sure to mark the wires or use different color wire so you know which side is the cathode and which is the anode (tip: the vast majority of LEDs have a long lead and a short lead. The long lead is the anode).  It is wise to think of how much wire you might need and probably double it... better too long than too short.  Once you've soldered and taped your LED, go ahead and stick it in the hole you drilled. Try to make it so the LED is pointing as straight down the "tube" as possible for best light transmission but don't shove it all the way to the end.



Feed the other ends of the wires through a hole in the back and close everything up (the picture shows us using an existing hole but that may not be the best idea if it can cause pinching of the wire. Consider drilling a new hole instead).  Be careful putting the plastic housing back on and make sure all 7 clips find their ways back to the proper places.



Feeding the wire from the upper part of the dashboard down the few inches to the lower part (where the wiper arm is) was probably the hardest part of this, but as this picture shows it is possible.  A stiff wire would really help here if you have one handy.



With the wire fed through and the instrument cluster cable reconnected, you can push the cluster back onto the dash.  Just line it up and push lightly and it should go securely back into place.  Now we get into the tricky parts.  You need to expose the wires in the cruise control switch cable.  There are various ways you can go about this and you may find the simplest is to just cut the wire and splice everything back together afterward.  I used a good quality auto-ratcheting wire stripper to strip the outer sheathing away in two places and then carefully used a razor blade to slice and remove it, thereby exposing the three internal wires as shown.



Remember that you marked the wire to keep the anode and cathode separate, right?  Tap the anode wire into the black cruise wire and the cathode wire into the red cruise wire.  There are a variety of ways to do this.  You can strip a section of the wires and solder them or you can use tap-splices like I did. Tap splices come in a few styles, these are high quality ScotchLok taps by 3M.  The green one is used to truly "tap" a wire (split off a signal without interrupting that signal) while the red ones are really just fancy butt connectors.  You would use the red one on the red wire IF you want to disable the existing LED. In other words, cut the red wire and leave the original LED disconnected.  Use the green one if you want the original light to illuminate as well.  The black wire must remain connected in either case.  You do nothing with the white wire!



You're pretty much done!  Depending on how you did your tapping/splicing you may want to wrap it all up in electrical tape and/or use nylon zip straps to make sure too much strain isn't on the connections.  Then put everything back together and go for a test.  You should see the appropriate light come on the dash.  Some cars will show the "ECO" like ours does but many (most?) should show a little cruise control symbol.  Both of these stem from when smart was being indecisive about whether the MHD (pseudo-hybrid) version or the cruise control would be available... in the end it was neither.  For those that think a cruise light in the dash might mean a factory cruise is on the way, keep in mind that the "light" doesn't even have an associated LED on the circuit board so don't get too excited.  They were just covering their bases and got production under way before decisions were made.



By the way, you can test without actually driving or even cranking up the engine by just putting the key to auxiliary power, shifting into D with your foot on the brake and then press the button... the light will flash because it doesn't like you pressing the brake and button at the same time.

Troubleshooting: I'll add to this as people run into problems and ask questions but here are a few that come to mind.

Problem: Light doesn't come on.
Solution: Perhaps the anode and cathode for your LED are reversed. Try switching the two wires and see if that helps. The bulb could be the wrong voltage or designed for a different power system, etc. Or it could just be a bad bulb. You may have missed a connection - check again. If you didn't disconnect it... does the original light still come on?  That may help in your troubleshooting.

Problem: The light comes on but it doesn't look very good. (sort of like ours in the last picture above)
Solution: The dash was designed for a specific LED and it is a surface mounted one that sits in a very exact way and shines directly at the icon from behind. So LED position can make a big difference and you may want to play with pushing the LED in further, or pulling it back, or adjusting the angle. If none of that helps then maybe using an LED that is more or less bright can help.  There are also a myriad of LED bulbs with different viewing angles, light intensities, etc and it may just take some trial and error to get it to look perfect.  There was a reason, after all, why we put the LED on the stalk instead of making this mod part of the standard installation.

Problem:  Uhoh! I managed to damage the cruise cable when trying to remove the outer insulation (or whatever).
Solution:  Don't worry about it too much.  There's nothing overly special about that wire so if you are handy with soldering you can probably manage to fix it on your own.  If not, you will be able to purchase a replacement switch cable from us directly.  Price and availability of spare parts are yet to be determined but the expensive part is the main cruise box so it shouldn't be too bad.

Problem:  Uhoh! I managed to damage the instrument cluster when [insert major oops here]!
Solution:  Ouch.  Let this be a lesson to others to proceed carefully!  A new instrument cluster will set you back quite a bit.  So if the damage is just cosmetic or you broke a clip, try to fix it best you can with glue and/or paint or whatever is necessary.  I've had our instrument cluster apart and put back together probably over 30 times now and it is still in perfect condition so the key is to never force anything, take your time, and pay attention to details.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 05:11:25 PM »

 ;D

YAY!

Thanks for the LED specs.

I had no idea there was a place for a cruise (or ECO) in the dash.... That is awesome!

I can see why you would not want this as part of the stock-cruise package.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 05:43:09 PM »

Wonderful! Thanks for posting those instructions!

A note and a question:

One of the pictures was duplicated and is not showing the correct picture. I show it as being http://area451parts.com/images/LED_mod/CIMG1777.JPG. The picture is supposed to show the three exposed internal wires of the cruise control switch cable.

My question is, is there a color filter already on the inside of the icon? I'd like to use a green LED instead of red.

Thanks again! You guys are the best!

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 07:14:50 PM »

Yep, you're right.  I'll fix that when I get back to the office (I don't have the photos on this computer).

I am not certain if there is a color filter.  I would think so, but then it may have been more economical for them to use different colored LEDs and a uniform film.  When you have it apart you can test pretty easily with a flashlight. Let us know!
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 07:52:52 PM »

hey, thats where I keep my sunglasses too!

 8)

Would the spec on the 2ndary LED be different if the existing LED was disabled?

Oh, and is it possible to get an illustration where the clips are (that hold the instrument cluster to the dash)  kinda like this:
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LOVING MY AREA 451 C/C WITH OPTIONAL LED !!


« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 12:30:17 PM »

Craig,

As usual, you have out done yourself :P 

What a great tutorial !  Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for  ;D

Again, thanks and good luck.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 05:22:18 PM »

Thank you for a great tutorial (and a great product.) When warm weather comes again I may give it a try.
PS A pdf that I could print and have with me for reference while doing it (also true for many others I'm sure) would be a big help. So, whenever time permits, please post one.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2008, 08:37:44 PM »


LED Specs: Clear/white is ideal but hard to find one that fits the electrical requirements so red may be your only choice.


Boy, you weren't kidding. I've been searching the net for the past three hours and the closest I've found so far is here. They USED to stock one at 1.5 volts, but no one seems to carry it anymore. Will a 3V LED do or is that simply asking too much?

If it can't be used, then I have to ask if you guys have a different solution? I'm assuming that there are color filters on the inside of the icons. I'm also assuming the cruise light has a green filter (I haven't yet verified this). If that's the case, I would further assume a red LED wouldn't work cause red and green don't mix. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 08:50:58 PM »

I wouldn't at all think that the cruise filter would be green.  The filter is either clear or red or amber.  I don't think you have to worry.  Red should be just fine.  Don't use a 3V LED.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 08:06:53 PM »

Ideally, I would like to have a green icon.

I shined a flashlight through the front of the display (I won't have an opportunity to take it apart for a while), and I think you're right... there are no filters, it's clear. If that truly is the case, then smart has used colored LEDs on the circuit board, which would make white the wrong choice anyway.

So, I looked around... and I think I found the perfect LED (although the mcd is rather low)... shown here. What do you think... will that work well?

I also found another, but this I'd have to order, found here. 2.2v, 20mA, and 250mcd. How's that?

Also, what gauge wire are you using between the cruise unit and the stalk?

Thanks!

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2008, 02:00:03 PM »

You're right that white is the wrong choice.  Obviously... not sure what I was thinking.  I guess initially I assumed it was filters.  Thanks for pointing that out.

I will correct/change that.

The first LED you found is probably too large.  5mm (T-1-3/4 size) is a bit big.  Physically I mean.  Look for 3mm.  5 might be fine though - I didn't try.  It is also possibly a bit weak.  Your second one is a better fit electrically but again it is a 5mm.

I should also mention size in the original tutorial.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2008, 10:02:38 PM »

The Cruise installed easily and works very well but I also found I needed the secondary indicator.  I followed the Area451 procedure with minor changes.

I used Radio Shack Wide Angle 5 mm Red LED, 1.7 V, 20 mA, 800 mcd, part # 276-309.  I wanted a green or blue LED and tried several others (green, yellow, etc.) from RS but non matched the necessary specifications and therefore didn't illuminate as well.

Looking closely at the display panel to the right of the speedo I didn't see an ECO mask but thought I could see a Cruise Control Indicator (CCI) further down.  Dismantling the Console Pod (I love this car.  It's like working with Lego) I found that one space down from that used in the Area451 procedure my 451 Passion does indeed have an unused CCI mask.  Not any more!

I used red and black 22 gauge wire also sourced from RS, soldered the respective joints and shrink tubed them.  I also put short sections of shrink tube every 5-6" to keep the wires tidy and easier to route.  I drilled a 6 mm hole beside the opening for the factory multipin connector.  I don't like the idea of routing the waire through the opening used in the published procedure as they are used for the mounting clips and I was concerned about pinching and possibly shorting the wires.

The project was easy and the results are fine.  I'd still prefer green or blue and will keep looking for a suitable LED and install one when sourced.  I quick test drive proved everything is fully operational and now so much easier to use the "Resume speed" and "Increase speed" features.  Now I can see what I'm doing and see the CCI flashing as the speed is varied or the Cruise comes back online.  Super!

I'm going to try and attach some pictures if I've managed to reduce the resolution and size enough to pass the guardware.

That didn't work so no pictures.  It seems I can't use the attach feature.  That's lame.

Phil.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2008, 10:06:04 PM »

Oh, the masks are all clear so one can use whatever color LED one can find that meets the necessary specifications.  I wouldn't need to write this if you could see the pictures I took.

C'est la vie.

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 10:13:35 AM »

Now to figure out why you can't post pictures...  (I'm on it)

Edit: hmm... permissions are set such that you can, and others have been.  Is it giving you a particular error?  The picture can't be larger than 768kb, nor should it need to be for posting on the web so if you're trying to upload a huge file right from your camera that might be the problem.  Try shrinking it either with software on your computer or with a service like http://www.shrinkpictures.com/
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2008, 01:26:39 PM »

Is the 768kb figure a total for all pictures or for each picture.  I assume it's for each one.  On my second attempt to attach the images I had downsized the four of them but they still didn't go.  Worse, once I've attempted to attach them there is no way to remove them without getting out completely and re-keying the message.  The second time around I was smart enough to have at least saved my text for the third attempt.

I suspect it may be a system configuration/features matter.  I use Firefox for my browser.  Maybe IE is different.  Oops.  Of course it's different.  It's MicroSoft.  Silly me!  Anyone else out there using Firefox able to upload pictures?

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